Saketopoulou traffics in shame through a process of projective identification, inducing it in those who do not mind meld with her. I once saw her brutally shame a participant in a lecture of hers who asked a perfectly reasonable question about medical gender-affirming treatment of children, while the audience, filled with psychoanalysts, in a grotesque display of groupthink dynamics not unlike what one might expect at a Trump rally, stood by mute. Her “aesthetic” is to endorse resistance to the bullies she disagrees with while encouraging support of the bullies she admires. In her article “On the ethics of Violence” (https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/11/05/on-the-ethics-of-violence-palestine-and-cyprus/) she basically justifies Hamas’ brutality against Israeli noncombatants, women, children and babies. The encouragement of violence of any kind, no matter the justification, cannot be considered psychoanalytic. Any psychoanalyst who believes otherwise has lost their moral compass.
This eloquent essay slips-in the "genocide" antiZionist blood-libel toward the end, with no evidence, no data, no argument, no counter-pressure, and no apparent knowledge of its perverse origin and function. The essay includes plenty of self-reflection and abashed self-criticism about liberal quietism, but the writer would appear to be (and I may be wrong) a Jewish progressive who has been through 2 years and 2 months of the post-October 7th world without any transformative break from the delusions it exposed so painfully. This is indeed what our professional community at large seems generally to want from us: blind loyalty at any price we (not they) might have to pay for it.
See “Deconstructing the Genocide Blood Libel,” by Ari Rosenbaum:
From my perspective Dr. Blum, who is clearly brilliant enough, has been feeling the wrong shame. He and I and our Jewish colleagues are targeted by both the right and the left, not just the right—and the fig leaf of swapping "the Jews" for "Israel" and antisemitism for antiZionism does absolutely nothing to protect us from either professional marginalization or mob pitchforks (or indeed possible state violence). If you feel shame, I wonder (with all due respect) whether it might better pertain to the failure to realize this for the past 26 months. It might behoove you to educate yourself further about the Arab-Israeli conflict from outside the bubble of Chomsky, Said, Pappe, Sheehi et al. Then you might well stop being ashamed, and start standing up for yourself and your patients and your people. Look out the window. It's getting late.
If the phrase "mass-murder of defenseless civilians (mainly comprising women and children)" were used instead of the word genocide, would you be satisfied?
There is this thing called "war," which Hamas, the government Gazans elected, instigated with a racist massacre matching the description you just gave. Massacres tend to bring retaliation (especially after 13 centuries of humiliation under Islamic domineering colonialism). In its urban form, war usually causes civilian deaths in a ratio of 9:1 to combatant deaths. In Hamas' Gaza war, Israel achieved a 1:1 ratio, the lowest in the history of urban warfare.
Before you comment further, as the proud dupe of Islamist programming, to pluck once more the low-hanging fruit of moralistic bombast, read the above links about the question you claim to have answered. Racists can no longer hide behind antiZionism. You have your indignation, zeal, and a worldwide angry mob. What you don't have are arguments, indigeneity, and accurate historical claims.
Yawn, more of the usual lies. You guys should really get more creative with your distortions. Modern warfare has reduced the casualty rate significantly, well-below 9:1, and nobody thinks it's 1:1 besides IDF official reports. Not even the IDF thinks that - their leaked info shows it's more like 5:1. This is all a bit beside the point, though, because the casualty rate is a red herring that assumes that people will accept this as a "war" and not a "massacre" (not the tact I'd advise you take for future discussions, as it's clear to the entire world that civilians are being indiscriminately starved and slaughtered - I'm just trying to help you out here). It's no longer a war where enemy combatants are really being fought besides occasional skirmishes, it's just a massacre of civilians via bombs and starvation with the ultimate goal of occupying Gazan land and eventually taking it over. You know this, I know this, Netanyahu actually admitted to this publicly. Israel's time of playing the ever-present victim has come to an end - I imagine it must be tough for them to watch nearly the entire world come together in it's condemnation of their barbarity disguised as victimhood. I don't actually care about convincing you on this point - I don't have illusions of that, but I hope you will come to realize that your hatred of Palestinians and Gazans is not justified by past sins against the Jewish people. I and most of my Jewish friends have come to the same realization after long being reflexive supporters of Israel, as we were taught to be as Americans. It's quite liberating to know that you can decide for yourself and don't have to turn yourself into a hatred-machine in service of an ideology that was foisted up on you. Good luck, I hope you're able to grow a bit of compassion for the children who will burn to death in their beds tonight after American bombs fall on their heads. You're going to need it if you have any desire to be free of your own projection and denial.
Saketopoulou traffics in shame through a process of projective identification, inducing it in those who do not mind meld with her. I once saw her brutally shame a participant in a lecture of hers who asked a perfectly reasonable question about medical gender-affirming treatment of children, while the audience, filled with psychoanalysts, in a grotesque display of groupthink dynamics not unlike what one might expect at a Trump rally, stood by mute. Her “aesthetic” is to endorse resistance to the bullies she disagrees with while encouraging support of the bullies she admires. In her article “On the ethics of Violence” (https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/11/05/on-the-ethics-of-violence-palestine-and-cyprus/) she basically justifies Hamas’ brutality against Israeli noncombatants, women, children and babies. The encouragement of violence of any kind, no matter the justification, cannot be considered psychoanalytic. Any psychoanalyst who believes otherwise has lost their moral compass.
This eloquent essay slips-in the "genocide" antiZionist blood-libel toward the end, with no evidence, no data, no argument, no counter-pressure, and no apparent knowledge of its perverse origin and function. The essay includes plenty of self-reflection and abashed self-criticism about liberal quietism, but the writer would appear to be (and I may be wrong) a Jewish progressive who has been through 2 years and 2 months of the post-October 7th world without any transformative break from the delusions it exposed so painfully. This is indeed what our professional community at large seems generally to want from us: blind loyalty at any price we (not they) might have to pay for it.
See “Deconstructing the Genocide Blood Libel,” by Ari Rosenbaum:
https://www.jewishrockland.org/doing-jewish/deconstructing-the-genocide-blood-libel
See also “The Genocide Libel,” by Norman Goda:
https://isca.indiana.edu/publication-research/research-paper-series/norman-jw-goda-research-paper.html
From my perspective Dr. Blum, who is clearly brilliant enough, has been feeling the wrong shame. He and I and our Jewish colleagues are targeted by both the right and the left, not just the right—and the fig leaf of swapping "the Jews" for "Israel" and antisemitism for antiZionism does absolutely nothing to protect us from either professional marginalization or mob pitchforks (or indeed possible state violence). If you feel shame, I wonder (with all due respect) whether it might better pertain to the failure to realize this for the past 26 months. It might behoove you to educate yourself further about the Arab-Israeli conflict from outside the bubble of Chomsky, Said, Pappe, Sheehi et al. Then you might well stop being ashamed, and start standing up for yourself and your patients and your people. Look out the window. It's getting late.
If the phrase "mass-murder of defenseless civilians (mainly comprising women and children)" were used instead of the word genocide, would you be satisfied?
There is this thing called "war," which Hamas, the government Gazans elected, instigated with a racist massacre matching the description you just gave. Massacres tend to bring retaliation (especially after 13 centuries of humiliation under Islamic domineering colonialism). In its urban form, war usually causes civilian deaths in a ratio of 9:1 to combatant deaths. In Hamas' Gaza war, Israel achieved a 1:1 ratio, the lowest in the history of urban warfare.
Before you comment further, as the proud dupe of Islamist programming, to pluck once more the low-hanging fruit of moralistic bombast, read the above links about the question you claim to have answered. Racists can no longer hide behind antiZionism. You have your indignation, zeal, and a worldwide angry mob. What you don't have are arguments, indigeneity, and accurate historical claims.
Watch this if you dare, anonymous scoffer:
https://youtu.be/6wrhzDBvhEc?si=yFd0ZAqaU81UvrjX
Yawn, more of the usual lies. You guys should really get more creative with your distortions. Modern warfare has reduced the casualty rate significantly, well-below 9:1, and nobody thinks it's 1:1 besides IDF official reports. Not even the IDF thinks that - their leaked info shows it's more like 5:1. This is all a bit beside the point, though, because the casualty rate is a red herring that assumes that people will accept this as a "war" and not a "massacre" (not the tact I'd advise you take for future discussions, as it's clear to the entire world that civilians are being indiscriminately starved and slaughtered - I'm just trying to help you out here). It's no longer a war where enemy combatants are really being fought besides occasional skirmishes, it's just a massacre of civilians via bombs and starvation with the ultimate goal of occupying Gazan land and eventually taking it over. You know this, I know this, Netanyahu actually admitted to this publicly. Israel's time of playing the ever-present victim has come to an end - I imagine it must be tough for them to watch nearly the entire world come together in it's condemnation of their barbarity disguised as victimhood. I don't actually care about convincing you on this point - I don't have illusions of that, but I hope you will come to realize that your hatred of Palestinians and Gazans is not justified by past sins against the Jewish people. I and most of my Jewish friends have come to the same realization after long being reflexive supporters of Israel, as we were taught to be as Americans. It's quite liberating to know that you can decide for yourself and don't have to turn yourself into a hatred-machine in service of an ideology that was foisted up on you. Good luck, I hope you're able to grow a bit of compassion for the children who will burn to death in their beds tonight after American bombs fall on their heads. You're going to need it if you have any desire to be free of your own projection and denial.
https://www.thefp.com/p/what-anti-zionism-really-is